Boris Johnson Covid Inquiry live: ex-Prime Minister gives evidence on coronavirus pandemic - latest updates
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Boris Johnson has started giving evidence to the Covid Inquiry, and the former Prime Minister began by saying he was "deeply sorry" to families who had lost loved ones.
Johnson started his statement from 10am, and in two days of evidence is likely to argue he got the big calls right. The appearance has already been caught in scandal as Johnson was unable to provide the probe with any of his WhatsApp messages from February to June 2020 - the period of the first lockdown. He denied he deleted the messages and said it was a technical error.
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Hide AdThe former Prime Minister defended Downing Street's "toxic culture" with abuse towards ministers and civil servants flying around WhatsApp groups. Johnson said: "It would not have been right to have a load of WhatsApps saying ‘aren’t we doing brilliantly folks’ - your criticisms might have been even more pungent."
Follow the latest updates from Health Editor David George and Politics Editor Ralph Blackburn on our live blog below, and watch Boris Johnson's statement on our live stream.
Key Events
- Covid Inquiry still not able to access Boris Johnson's WhatsApps
- Johnson denies "toxic culture" in government - describing it as an "atmosphere of challenge"
- Ex-PM to continue giving evidence tomorrow
Professionals had it "easier" in lockdown, says Johnson
Johnson said: "Sometimes we didn't think hard enough about the impact of lockdown on different groups. Frankly it was much easier for people with professional jobs to sit out the lockdown than it was for others, whether in the hospitality section or whatever.
"A lot of people who were on lower incomes really had a pretty tough time of it. I think it was vital to focus on those people and do everything we could to help them through lockdown, but realise it was hitting those groups particularly hard.
"For me that was a reason to be so careful about going back into a national lockdown in September [2020]."
Johnson says toxic culture was "not put to me"
"A great deal of evidence has been given to the effect of systemic problems in Number 10," Keith KC said. "People in the wrong jobs, talking over each other, toxicity, misogyny... either you were aware of all that - in which case why did you not act - or if not, why not?"
Johnson replied: "None of those things were put to me in the way you've just done. What I saw was a country that needed continuous, urgent action and needed solutions to be found.
"I wanted meetings where people could speak their mind without fear of being embarrassed. That's one of the reasons why I sometimes spoke bluntly and freely in meetings - I wanted people to feel they could do the same."
Johnson "thought about" getting rid of Matt Hancock
After senior advisers told Johnson that the Department for Health and Social Care was struggling in mid-2020, the former Prime Minister considered health secretary Matt Hancock's future.
"I thought, in the circumstances, Matt Hancock was doing a good job," he said. "He is intellectually able and whatever his failings may or may not have been, I did not see any advantage to the country in moving him in exchange for someone else when I couldn't be sure we would be trading up.
"Of course I thought about it - but we took control and the management of the pandemic was essentially centralised in Number 10. I didn't stick by him for any reason other than that I thought, on the whole, he was doing a good job."
Meanwhile, Dominic Cummings said in his evidence that "leaving him [Hancock] there guaranteed further disasters and deaths in the autumn. His political secretary told me the Prime Minister wanted to keep Hancock as the sacrifice for the inquiry."
"I don't remember that at all. It's nonsense," said Johnson.
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