Scottish election debate: party leaders clash in final TV debate ahead of vote

The leaders of the country’s five largest parties - the SNP, Scottish Tories, Scottish Labour, the Greens and Lib Dems - made their final pitches to voters before Thursday’s Scottish Parliament election

The five party leaders clashed during Election Scotland 2021: Leaders' Debate at Edinburgh's Corn Exchange (PA/BBC)
The five party leaders clashed during Election Scotland 2021: Leaders' Debate at Edinburgh's Corn Exchange (PA/BBC)

Scotland’s party leaders spectacularly clashed in tonight’s final TV debate before the Scottish Parliament election.

Less than 36 hours before voters begin to go to the polls, the political leaders of Holyrood’s five largest parties debated a host of issues on BBC Scotland - from the constitution to Covid to the country’s care system.

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In a heated moment, SNP leader Nicola Sturgeon rejected the accusation from Scottish Tory leader Douglas Ross that her party would lead an “illegal wildcat referendum” if elected.

Responding to the assertion, the First Minister said: “No we won’t. I’ve always said that, Douglas.”

She added: “I know Douglas that your campaign has perhaps not been the most successful campaign, but don’t start to issue smears and just tell untruths about my position and what I’ve said.

“I’ve said consistently all along, sometimes to criticism from people in my own side of the argument, I would not countenance an illegal referendum – not least because it would not deliver independence and I want Scotland in the fullness of time and due course to become an independent country.”

‘Only interested in saving his skin’

Mr Ross said that, should a request be made for another referendum, Prime Minister Boris Johnson would reject it.

“Nicola Sturgeon has been clear. If she gets a majority, she’ll take her eye off the ball for Scotland’s recovery, for rebuilding this country from this pandemic and seek to hold another independence referendum.”

Scottish Labour leader Anas Sarwar, meanwhile, doubted the Tory leader’s commitment to the United Kingdom, saying: “The problem you have with Douglas’ approach is he’s just a gift to the SNP and if he leads the opposition after this election he’ll be the gift that keeps on giving.

“He’s only interested in saving his skin, not saving the Union.”

Scottish Greens co-leader Patrick Harvie said the possibility of an independent Scotland would allow the country to shape a more radical future.

“I don’t think we can afford to pass up the opportunity to shape our own recovery,” he said.

“This is a moment of incredible opportunity to decide what kind of country is going to emerge from Covid.”

Lib Dem leader Willie Rennie, however, was exasperated by the discussion of the constitution, saying: “The people who are waiting an age for mental health treatment I think deserve better than this, the people who are desperate for a job deserve better than this.”

Debate over tax rises

The First Minister also said she does not support an increase in income tax, but admitted “unforeseen circumstances” such as cuts to the block grant may necessitate such a move.

Mr Ross’ party has also said it wants to bring taxes in Scotland back into line with the rest of the UK, but claims this would only happen towards the end of the parliamentary term, if the economic outlook allows.

“I am not saying this is a cast-iron commitment,” the Conservative said.

“But our pledge is to seek parity in the tax system, for 1.1 million people in Scotland who are taxed more for doing the exact same job than they are in the rest of the United Kingdom.”

Mr Sarwar, who has also said he is against a tax rise but would want to see such a move for those earning at least £150,000 per year in the first instance, accused the Tory leader of wanting to give himself a tax cut – to Mr Ross’ protestations.

“What Douglas is trying to say… is he would give himself a tax cut rather than people across the country.”

Mr Ross is already an MP, and is seeking to become an MSP, as well as being the leader of the Scottish Tories.

“You want to give yourself a tax cut for perhaps all three salaries you want to earn,” Mr Sarwar told him.